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Let the mutherfuker burn!
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yellojkteven though he’s clearly too old for me, he and I are both happily married to other people and he lives in Frickin’ Texas. Here’s part of a comment he made at the PL that didn’t get enough coverage. We can still be friends though.
I sometimes come here just to read Shrink’s links, or john’s, or jncp’s, or suek’s. When I see a substantive discussion, if I have time I might join in. But this place bogs down if it celebrates the momentary gain from political low blows which is always followed by a further obfuscation of the real discussions that could be had here, if not by the nominees.
Which is why I want Gary Johnson to do better in the polls. We need another voice in the TV debates or they will sound like…”Obamacare”…”Romneycare”…”Bain”…”tax and spend”…”tax cuts for the rich”…and no one will even mention that CONGRESS HAS NOT DONE ITS JOB< EITHER D, R, OR MIXED, IN YEARS and the American people will go on being told by the challenger that the POTUS can do everything while the incumbent is bound by the fact that the POTUS can do little [after having campaigned saying the POTUS can do it all].
But here, we could agree that POTUS cannot do what any nominee promises, and then talk about what should be done by Congress and by POTUS. No matter what we say here about the horse race of politics it will happen. It would be more difficult but more rewarding to focus on issues, here.
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All Things in Moderation 
Happy I made the short list of worthwhile commentators.
This is worth a read:
‘Lifeguard’s ordeal is parable about outsourcing
By Steven Pearlstein, Saturday, July 14, 6:55 PM”
http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/lifeguards-ordeal-is-parable-about-outsourcing/2012/07/13/gJQAN6TtkW_story.html?hpid=z3
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jnc, look over to the right under moderately recent comments
jnc on Why I Love Mark
I thought I was being sort of funny but that cracks me up.
And your comments and links are “almost” always good.
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It is to blush, Lulu.
That Pearlstein column was a great read. Thanks.
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Indeed, mark, it was a great comment that did not receive enough attention. I did recommend it though. IMHO it is more a propos at ATiM than PL.
jnc, I always look forward to your comments and great links. I laugh to myself about how surprisingly often I agree with you, given that we basically are on different sides of the fence. That makes me believe that on the national stage there is room for agreement and resolution to some of our issues in spite of ourselves.
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Okie, I think we are doing so much better here. Most of the time, KW’s [and or Lulu’s] rules of engagement work, here. We have long threads that attempt to dissect the ideas. We have folks who are interested in the history of ideas.
Flaming occurs here, inevitably, because we are human beings, who have some notions that we hold so dear that we feel threatened when they are challenged. But it is sporadic, and we can engage on the very next topic. Not so at the Plum Line. There are too many flamers who come just to call names or ridicule other persons.
Let me see if I can give some examples here of the emotional challenges we face. I, who have counted the 55 dead in my extended family in Austria thanks to the Nazis, have a trip wire about civil liberties. When the POTUS takes the position that the executive can declare a citizen an enemy of the state he is talking about me, AFAIK. Whatever else is happening in the world, I prize my American citizenship exactly because I think our Constitution will not allow that tyranny. For me, this Presidential assumption, now given a congressional stamp of approval, must not go unchallenged. Nothing matters to me like this. Yet I feel nearly powerless about it. So I think QB may feel about “natural law” issues, and you may feel when women are singled out for having their unique health issues treated substantially differently than male health matters, for whatever reason is posed. Everybody has one or more of these.
My eldest daughter just gave me an early 69th birthday present. She has been here helping me move this week. It is Daniel Kahneman’s book, Thinking, Fast and Slow. If the reviews are spot on, it will provide insight for me into this hot-button trip wire phenomenon.
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Mark
It is to blush, Lulu.
haaahaaahaaaa Mark, I thought that would get everyone’s attention. It’s true we all have our hot button issues and sometimes it’s nearly impossible to jump off that wall, but we persevere. Every time I nearly give up on the idea that it’s possible to disagree without being disagreeable, I give it another try……………….not sure why, but it seems important.
Your message however, was mostly lost at the PL which is why I brought it over here, as a reminder to us all. And I would challenge anyone here to meekly accept the idea that insurance companies are operating in a fair or open market, or should even be allowed to, once they’ve lost a loved one to the practice of rescission, hot button indeed.
And it was Kevin who wrote the rules so eloquently and Scott who wrote the About ATiM page. I couldn’t have written either one any better.
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Mark, I concur. My comment was poorly phrased and you may have read something I did not intend to write. When I said the comment is more a propos here than at PL, I meant that I perceive us doing much better here in the issues/flaming ratio, and that probably will never happen at PL. Nature of the beast, I think. In spite of the hot button issues, and I think you are correct that we all have them, I see very little at ATiM that I would characterize as flaming — as opposed to passionate commentary.
I do not have the holocaust history in my family tree, but if I had to choose between voting only on the civil liberties issues you describe or any of the myriad of women’s issues, the civil liberties issues would win out for me. I think it is so basic to our system of governance and way of life that it trumps all other issues.
Can we look forward to a report on the new book? I hope so!
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I love Mark, too. But I’m not gay or anything. Just sayin’.
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Not that there’s anything wrong with that, Kevin! 😉
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