Republican Convention Open Thread

You’re welcome, Don Juan!  🙂

 

Are you quite sure you don’t want to become an author with full rights and privileges for starting arguments?

MiA adds: Every time someone double posts, if I catch it, I trash one. All of us but one are following on a comments thread and the double posting is annoying. The “one” should learn to use this site.

Every time someone posts without a category (uncategorized), I jam it into one, if I catch it. KW used to do it for us, and sometimes Lulu did. Brent, look at the categories list, click the Most Used tab, and you will be surprised to find Morning Report as the second most used.

Now we wait for WMR to make his speech. If any of you watch it, please report in the comments.

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  1. Corked by Michigoose. I’m reposting my open thread as a comment.

    Until the actual speech, here is some advance video of his rehearsal (language not safe for the office or the humor impaired):

    Feel free to contrast with the actual speech.

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  2. “Are you quite sure you don’t want to become an author with full rights and privileges for starting arguments?”

    Begin the youngest child in my family, you will understand if I say I like this way better I’m sure!

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  3. michi:

    you’ve got mail!

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  4. Don Juan–

    I saw! And answered. . .

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  5. Mark:

    Re categories: thank you! I usually try to add them, but did this one in such a rush to beat yello that I forgot. Mea culpa.

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  6. I didn’t know it was a race or I wouldn’t have bothered to add the video.

    Michigoose: That’s what you get for being an overachiever!

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  7. Scott:

    Hendrick’s. . . wow! You can actually taste the rose petals!! I mixed up the H&T and took a sip and thought, “Wow–this is probably the first actually smooth gin I’ve ever tasted! This is good–thanks, Scott!” Then I set it down to get dinner started and picked it back up about five minutes later; I wish I knew a food chemist who could explain to me what is going on with the cucumber, because after having that chance to meld for a bit it brought out the rose petals and all sorts of other floral and herbal notes.

    I bow to you, Oh Jedi Master of Gin!

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    • Mich:

      I bow to you, Oh Jedi Master of Gin!

      Thanks! I too was really surprised at the effect the cucumber had. Very weird, but good. Glad you enjoyed it.

      I’m always on the lookout, so if I come across another good one I will let you know.

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  8. Very, very early comment on the convention: whether or not there is a diversity of gender and color in the attendees or the politicians at the podium, there is absolutely none there with the invocation. One of the most exclusively Christian–in your face and you’re wrong if you’re not a Christian–invocations I’ve heard at a public gathering in years.

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  9. Listening to the Bills vs the Lions preseason game 4. Speaks volumes about my interest in the convention.

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    • Brent:

      Listening to the Bills vs the Lions preseason game 4.

      College football starts tonight. Vanderbilt versus South Carolina. SC up 10-7, 2nd quarter.

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  10. Brent, I’d say your priorities are in the right place. . . hmmmmm. Who are you rooting for?

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  11. Utah vs Northern Colorado (this has got to be a Pac12 tradition game or something–we’ve never played NoCO before). Utah up 7-0, 12:00 remaining in 2nd quarter.

    Tomorrow night is MSU vs Boise State–go Spartans!

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  12. Who are you rooting for?

    The Lions. I have the Detroit Lion on the back of my car. In New England, people must figure I lost a bet.

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  13. Only Lions sticker I have ever seen on the Merritt

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    • BTW…meant to mention the other day, thanks so much for the really uplifting news about New Canaan. I actually thought things were doing better here.

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  14. Brent–

    Well then, you can feel my pain. And, just imagine, when I was living in WA (and still, for that matter) I’m also a Seahawks fan.

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  15. “BTW…meant to mention the other day, thanks so much for the really uplifting news about New Canaan. I actually thought things were doing better here.”

    I used to run up Ponus Ridge a lot and once you got past Wahackame, there were quite a few vacant new constructions and then there would be morel along Laurel Reservoir.

    But lets face it, New Canaan doesn’t have the easy commute to the city that Greenwich has, so it is probably more vulnerable. And, you can’t get cell service. Whats up with that?

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    • I know the ones you are talking about up past Wahackme. Really big houses built right near the end. There’s one oversized house on Ponus near Frogtown that has been on the market for years and seems like it will never sell. But there aren’t nearly as many signs up as previously. My cul-de-sac (off of south Ponus) has 14 houses on it, and at one point 6 were on the market. They all turned over 1-2 years ago, and things seem stable now. But the crazy-high end will never come back.

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      • Just to throw my Michigan 2 cents in on the real estate: At least 4 houses have sold within a few blocks of mine in the last month. There are far fewer monster houses for sale on Lakeshore drive in Grosse Pointe, too. One even sold earlier this month. So good news on the Michigan real estate front.

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  16. Good Lord–Utah up 21 – 0 at the half.

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  17. The Detroit MSA has been strong for quite some time. Same with Phoenix.

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  18. Damn you people. NOW you talk about sports!

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  19. Is that who it was? On another channel they said it was Jim Craig there, but I didn’t see anybody that looked like an old Jim Craig!.

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    • On another channel they said it was Jim Craig there

      Eruzione was speaking. Some of the team members were behind him. Maybe Craig was there, but I didn’t see him.

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  20. It’s one of those you know you’re old moments when an athletic hero from your youth appears in public now looking like your mailman.

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  21. BTW

    If I’m offline tomorrow it’s because my tearful reaction from Bernanke’s speech knocked out my laptop

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  22. How did you become a Lions fan?

    Born and raised in Toledo, OH. That said, I hate UM (grew up an OSU fan and am a UW alum) . The Browns are my AFC team.

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    • That said, I hate UM (grew up an OSU fan)

      Me too. I’m an MSU fan, wife’s an MSU alumn. I grew up a UM fan then I met UM fans that werent’ my father and grandfather and grew to loath the wolverines.

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  23. Hey Ann Romney was pretty hot back in the day!

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  24. The Browns LOL

    oh . . . were you serious?

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  25. Mitt “fell in love with America” in the national parks. I don’t think they even HAVE national parks in Kenya now do they!

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  26. oh . . . were you serious?

    As much as i try to root for teams that have a semi-shot, my heart just isn’t into it.

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  27. The least they could do is surround him with all his bastard children, family values and all that!

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  28. this is embarassing, whose idea was this?

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  29. This is like Eastwood doing an impression of Jimmy Stewart.

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  30. all he needs is a fake telephone receiver and I’m 8 years old again watching Bob Newhart on the Ed Sullivan Show with my parents

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  31. Rubio looks like he’s gained some weight recently. Still not as good-looking as his wife …

    American exceptionalism — his best topic.

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  32. Hilarious post from Allahpundit at HotAir.

    http://hotair.com/archives/2012/08/30/newest-racist-dog-whistle-chicago/

    I’m convinced that the only audience that MSNBC has are rightwing pundits trolling for blog fodder.

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  33. When he grows up, he’s going to be a good candidate.

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    • Rubio is good.

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    • I have never been to a political event much less a convention. Don’t people get tired of clapping?

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      • ashot:

        I hate the clapping too. Drives me crazy. Almost as bad as a SOTU.

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        • Scott-

          The clapping is one reason I usually don’t watch these things or the SOTU. I can read the transcripts. I wonder how much time the clapping adds. Although it is funny when the speaker pauses and it takes a few seconds for the audience to recognize that the last line was an applause line.

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  34. Rubio is very good. Gotta learn the teleprompters though.

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    • Yeah…Rubio is good. Him saying “That All Mighty God is the source of all we have” seems to be an odd inclusion in an introduction for a Mormon candidate.

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      • ashot:

        Why? Mormons believe in God.

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        • Scott-

          I just find it odd that we’ve had 4 years of religious questions about a professed Christian and everyone is just falling into line about Romney’s beliefs.

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        • ashot:

          I just find it odd that we’ve had 4 years of religious questions about a professed Christian and everyone is just falling into line about Romney’s beliefs.

          What do you mean falling in line? You mean you think Romney’s professed faith is insincere?

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        • You mean you think Romney’s professed faith is insincere?

          I think he completely sincere. But suddenly the religious beliefs of our President seems much less important. I probably have an odd perspective here because I recently had some discussions on this front with some very conservative family friends from the church where my dad was a pastor.

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        • ashot:

          But suddenly the religious beliefs of our President seems much less important.

          If you mean Obama’s seemed more important, I’m not sure why you think so. The focus on Obama’s religion was mostly a function of his pastor’s politics, not Obama’s religion.

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        • The focus on Obama’s religion was mostly a function of his pastor’s politics, not Obama’s religion
          Not in the social circles I travel in.

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  35. now that I see him live, way too young to run he made the right decision.

    2016

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  36. Never seen Rubio quite that emotional talking about his parents.

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  37. I’m late to the game–football, y’know (Utah 41, NoCO 0).

    Well, Mitt did win the US a lot of gold medals in Salt Lake City.

    And he won them himself, ashot!!

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  38. Mike:

    Rubio is very good. Gotta learn the teleprompters though.

    Isn’t that, well, immoral for a Republican, though?

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  39. Michi:

    Gander/goose ….

    Michigoose: *snort*!!

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  40. Probably a little too much Rubio and not enough Romney in this particular speech though.

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  41. Was it Rubio’s parents or his grandparents who emigrated from Cuba? I’m trying to remember if he’s more of a newbie than me or not (all four of my grandparents came from the Old Country).

    Maybe I could be a Special Woman at a Special Time. . .

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  42. Michi:

    Rubio’s parents came over pre-revolution (which was a source of some controversy).

    Back to watching Venus ….

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    • Man…part of me was still holding out hope that Ron Paul or one of his supporters would tackle Romney as he tried to accept the nomination.

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    • Venus is making a comeback. I really thought she was terrible for the first 10 games. She mis hit a serve into the ground.

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  43. BTW, who’s the dumbass that scheduled the BYU game the same night as Romney accepts the R nomination for POTUS?

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  44. Mike:

    OK, he wins, then. What tournament?

    Or are you talking with a telescope??

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  45. ashot:

    Man…part of me was still holding out hope that Ron Paul or one of his supporters would tackle Romney as he tried to accept the nomination.

    winespit

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  46. scott:

    Rubio is commtting career suicide, but it’s Ryan’s career that he is killing.

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  47. “BTW, who’s the dumbass that scheduled the BYU game the same night as Romney accepts the R nomination for POTUS?”

    it’s playing on the left side teleprompter

    Michigoose: You’ve clearly got widescreen!

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  48. Mike:

    BTW, who’s the dumbass that scheduled the BYU game the same night as Romney accepts the R nomination for POTUS?

    Gotta be BYU itself–they’ve gone independent in football now that Utah is in the Pac12 (sour grapes!!).

    Did I just here Mitt actually say something about “paying back student loans”??????

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  49. Michi:

    US Open (tennis). Venus Williams is losing to some German (Kerber). But she’s looking better in the second set.

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  50. Eastwood spoke to an empty chair and and now Romney is speaking to an imaginary American.

    Is every Republican an Alzheimer’s patient?

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  51. banned:

    Rubio is commtting career suicide, but it’s Ryan’s career that he is killing.

    Good line.

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  52. “Michigoose: You’ve clearly got widescreen!”

    I’m 20 feet away texting on my cell in the second row!

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  53. Corked by Mark.

    Hope Venus keeps playing after this tourney. Already no more Clijsters. Roddick is done after this as well — of course, going home to Brooklyn Decker every night isn’t such a burden.

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  54. What about if those children are Muslims in iran?

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  55. The last thing I’d ever want to do is go back to the days when we didn’t get to sleep through the night!

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  56. Kerber’s limping around a bit though. Geez, her second serve is a powder puff.

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  57. I liked the Rev Wright. He would have been fun to listen to. I’m not sure he would have felt the same way about me though.

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  58. why does it matter what experience Obama HAD 4 years after he is an experienced president?

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    • I wonder if Kay B toys agrees that some business succed and some fail. Bain succeeded and Kay B failed.
      First redistribution comment. Is there any doubt that any “wealth disparity” has increased under Obama?

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    • banned:

      why does it matter what experience Obama HAD 4 years after he is an experienced president?

      Maybe it helps explain the experience we’ve all had for the last 4 years.

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  59. If his boys were all athletic and liked to fight and mess around, how come none of them ever put on a uniform?

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    • I think the Rom-sons are all post draft. Also, they are not the nominee. A double non-starter.

      That Kelley and George [and Brent?] served without a draft is a plus for them, in my book – but it is not a minus that anyone else here did not. And I enlisted in 1968. Totally different thing.

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  60. scott

    Romney just asked if we’re better off than we were 4 years ago and said no

    What country was he liviing in 4 years ago, France?

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  61. He’s got a secret plan plan to build 12M new jobs!!!!

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  62. Why is “North American energy independence” something they are cheering?

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  63. scott

    You didn’t invest well. LOL

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  64. mark

    Yes too bad the sons he will send in harms ways won’t be

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  65. and daughters forgive the omission

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  66. Romney is talking about backbone OMG

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  67. Too many unforced errors by Venus. She’s gotta clean it up or she’s done.

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    • When the Williams sisters appeared they changed women’s tennis. But now other big babes are out there pounding the ball. Kerber hits mean ground strokes. Set point Venus!

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  68. won’t be drafted,

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  69. Mark:

    Yes, Brent. Navy. But he’s a Lion’s fan, so he’s got that going for him.

    It’s interesting listening to the speech without watching it. Watching him at the beginning was like fingernails on a chalkboard; listening he’s not quite so bad (although the problem is that the message comes through without visual distraction, and it’s just pablum).

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    • So the message is our country is crap now, but he’ll make it better.

      I do love the Ryan Romney bromance. Almost as improbable as Jenny Garth and Luke Perry getting together in real life.

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  70. there’s no mention of a Romney on any of those monuments either!

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    • banned:

      there’s no mention of a Romney on any of those monuments either!

      So what’s your point? A person can’t praise the sacrifices that others have made or the monuments to them without having made those same sacrifices? WTF is wrong with you?

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  71. Scott:

    You want a draft?

    I’m not DJ, but there are upsides to it. Conversation for another day. . .

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  72. praising the womenfolk.

    SERIOUSLY????????

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  73. All those other big pounders have big holes in their games (bigger than Venus’ erratic forehand). Serena is the total package.

    Set Venus!

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  74. Scott:

    Thank God for that.

    anotherwinespit

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  75. scott:

    yes let’s go back to the draft, no deferments this time. or more accuratelywe should have in 2001

    you can be damn sure we wouldn’t still be in Afghanistan if we had

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  76. I still think that I get the best deal streaming it on C-SPAN and reading you guys’ commentary. Much better than anything I’d find on TV.

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    • I’ll say this about Romney’s speech. It was better than watching the Tigers lose to Royals for a third consecutive game.

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  77. is it my imagination or does BYU have a small team?

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    • banned:

      I’ll ask again:

      there’s no mention of a Romney on any of those monuments either!

      So what’s your point? A person can’t praise the sacrifices that others have made or the monuments to them without having made those same sacrifices?

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  78. Since when has a draft prevented war? Vietnam lasted what, 7 years with a draft?

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  79. Michael Steele just said on The Daily Show that he didn’t even get credentials for this RNC. That would be amazingly tacky if that were true. Anyone know for sure?

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  80. scott;

    warmongers should have something at risk.

    Most of my father’s generation that I have met and spoken with weren’t heroes looking to save the world. They got drafted, they did the job and then they came home

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    • banned:

      warmongers should have something at risk.

      What does this mean? Only active military personal should be allowed to be president?

      Perhaps you are unaware, but the president, a civilian, was deliberately made the head of the armed services precisely to prevent the nation being run by the military.

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  81. george:

    Afghanistan is 11 years and counting without one

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    • Anyone else here read Alex Berenson novels? He has one set in AFG in 2009 that could lead the reader to uh question the purpose. One junior officer tells Wells [CIA] that the whole AFG economy was worth $20B but the American forces put $80B in each year. Tells him the American troops bribe the local Talibs. Kinda fund both sides of the war. Fiction, of course. Right?

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  82. ashot:

    You should watch the Barca/Real replay instead. Ronaldo’s backheel/goal was insane.

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  83. mike, mark or anybody

    dumbass uninformed comment coming up

    Is it my imagination that there are any top notch American men in tennis, and if so, why?

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  84. should say aren’t any top American men

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  85. Why would Steele lie about that? He was a little in over his head, but why would the GOP ice floe him like that. He’s the former Lt. Governor of Maryland.

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  86. scott

    too late at night for this we can do this one any time.

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    • banned:

      It’s now morning, and hopefully you’ve had a good night’s sleep. I want to pursue this further with a few questions:

      warmongers should have something at risk.

      What does this mean? Are you saying that any president should be an active military member in the field? What about congressmen who have to vote to send military men into harm’s way? Should they have to be active members of the military too? Is a US military junta what you have in mind?

      Also, have we ever had a president who was not a “warmonger”? Which was the last one who was not?

      Finally, is Mitt Romney a “warmonger”, and if so, how do you know?

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  87. So, having a draft cuts 4 years off of a war? Since not serving means you cannot salute the sacrifice of those that did, do you have to have served in combat to salute them?

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  88. for any Detroit Lions fans here

    Matt Millen is reduced to doing the BYU game. Is that far enough exile for you?

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    • Matt Millen is reduced to doing the BYU game. Is that far enough exile for you?

      Not in and of itself, but the healing has begun. I had a friend who recently bought Millen’s old condo in Dearborn. So Millen was still paying on it for years after he was fired and given the price my buddy paid, I’m sure Millen lost a decent chunk of change. The healing will only be compelte when I am watching the Lions in the Super Bowl in Millen’s old condo.

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  89. george:

    I know this won’t be short dicscussion and I’m on the east coast, not the west.

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  90. mark:

    Bingo, 20.34 billion GDP from the Wrodl Bank

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    • I don’t know why our top guys in tennis are not up to the level of the world’s four best. Probably just a cycle.

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  91. banned:

    Best American man right now is probably John Isner (9 seed). I think we’re just used to American dominance (Sampras, Agassi, McEnroe, Connors, Budge, etc.). It’s tough to be better than Federer, Nadal, or now Djokovic.

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  92. Huntsman on Colbert. Railing on super PACs.

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  93. the reviews on Eastwood are bad, much worse than what we wrote on here.

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  94. I think I can see that, as a purely philosophical discussion, at some point we need to have a post on the draft. McWing, will you co-author it with me? Maybe we can shoot for Veterans’ Day this year?

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  95. Michi, sure, sounds like a good idea.

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  96. McWing, terrific! I’ll get a hold of you tomorrow just to touch base.

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  97. ashot:

    The healing will only be compelte when I am watching the Lions in the Super Bowl in Millen’s old condo.

    May I beg an invitation?

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  98. You got it! I’m thinking the black ones with the gold chains on the side.

    One of these days you’ve got to show off yours, too.

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  99. Story Corps this morning is well worth listening to. Stay safe out there!

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