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yellojkt1988 – After 4 consecutive Stanley Cups, 8 consecutive MVP awards, and a list of scoring records that would make Michael Jordan envious, the reigning champion Edmonton Oilers shock the hockey world by trading Wayne Gretzky, the greatest player ever to play the game, to the Los Angeles Kings for $15 million. As part of the trade Gretsky demands that teammates Marty McSorley and Mike Krushelnyski be traded along with him. Marty McSorely – what a great name, and not just because of his namesake.
1976 – The USSR launches Luna 24, the last space craft to land on the moon to date, making the USSR responsible for both the first and last man-made crafts to land on the moon, both of which were unmanned. In the interim, however, the US managed a few successes of its own. And had more fun doing it.
1969 – Actress Sharon Tate (wife of Roman Polanksi), and 3 friends including Abigail Folger, heiress to the Folger Coffee fortune, are brutally murdered in Tate’s Benedict Canyon mansion. The murders are perpetrated by members of Charles Manson’s cultish “family” at his behest, in a bizarre attempt to spark a race war which, according to Manson, was prophesied in the songs of The Beatles. I first read about the murders as a young teenager in the book Helter Skelter by Manson prosecutor Vincent Bugliosi. I became totally fascinated with the story, and eventually with true crime stories in general.
1945 – U.S. drops the 2nd atomic bomb “Fat Man” on the city of Nagasaki, killing a reported 60,000 – 80,000 people. Following on the heels of the first use of an atomic bomb on the city of Hiroshima 3 days earlier, the bombing effectively puts an end to Japanese resistance, and within the week Japan surrenders unconditionally, finally ending WWII. Almost 70 years later debates continue to rage over whether the use of the bomb was justified.
1936 – Jesse Owens wins the last of his 4 gold medals at the Berlin Olympics, a well deserved poke in the eye of Adolf Hitler and his Aryan master race fantasies. Although apparently Owens did make good friends with one of his toughest German competitors.
1790 – The trading ship Columbia returns to Boston after a 3 year journey, the first ship to carry the U.S. flag around the world.
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All Things in Moderation 
Oh wow, I remember the summer of 1969 really well. Another trip down memory lane re Charles Manson. That was a weird summer for me anyway and I’ll never forget how bizarre all the stories were……………….very scary.
Hah Scott, I was a teenager when it happened.
August 9th, my sister-in-law Susie’s birthday who died at the age of 36.
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lms:
That was a weird summer for me anyway and I’ll never forget how bizarre all the stories were……………….very scary.
I still find it to be a fascinating time to read about.
August 9th, my sister-in-law Susie’s birthday who died at the age of 36.
My Mom’s, too.
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Well I’ll be.
http://thehill.com/blogs/healthwatch/health-reform-implementation/316045-obamacare-cost-cutting-board-faces-growing-opposition-from-democrats
At least we’ll all be victims of ID theft.
Heckuva job America!
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from troll’s link, quoting orszag
“The point of having such a board — and here I can perhaps speak with some authority, as I was present at the creation — is to create a process for tweaking our evolving payment system in response to incoming data and experience, a process that is more facile and dynamic than turning to Congress for legislation,” he wrote.
this is the biggest flaw in the entire system. if only we push the right button, pull the right lever, install the right person, all will be well.
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nova:
this is the biggest flaw in the entire system. if only we push the right button, pull the right lever, install the right person, all will be well.
It is the fudnamental flaw in pretty much the entire progressive ideology.
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Scott
I still find it to be a fascinating time to read about.
Do you mean just the Manson/Tate story or the sixties in general? Sometimes I still can’t believe what a wild ride it was coming of age during those years. So much was happening, and so fast, it was really crazy. Now that our kids are adults they love to hear all our stories…………….when they were little I wouldn’t dare tell them about half the stuff I did………….haha.
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lms:
Do you mean just the Manson/Tate story or the sixties in general?
Both, actually. The Manson story is inseparable from the wider story of the times. The drug culture, the sex culture, the music culture, the sub-culture in general….they were all instrumental in the terrifying events of that weekend.
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I always assume that people who talk about the country “falling apart” today have no memory of 1968 or 1969.
If there was ever a year in living memory where it would seem likely that the country would fall apart, it would have been 1968.
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Wouldn’t you have to consider Wilson’s Presidency as a time of “coming apart” as well?
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It is the fudnamental flaw in pretty much the entire progressive ideology.
It’s hubris in that it ignores Hayek’s Knowledge problem. Such is the way with Top Down Command and Control. I’ll never understand the desire to run other’s lives. Seriously.
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” I’ll never understand the desire to run other’s lives. Seriously.”
it starts early. my son, who is 4, was named “center inspector” at pre-school. his job was to “inspect” the play areas that other were assigned to clean. it went to his head in about 3-days. and spilled over to home. he tried to go into the my bedroom to make sure my clothes were properly put away and did not like it when i told him to come back with a warrant.
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“and did not like it when i told him to come back with a warrant.”
Which presumably would be issued by your wife?
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RWoW.
http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/3727402
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Paul Krugman again omits some relevant facts in his argument:
#1 The biggest discrediting of Keynesian economics took place during the 1970’s with stagflation. That’s still a formative experience for a lot of people currently in office and in economics. Prior to that “we were all Keynesians” and if the Time magazine article from 1965 was accurate in reflecting the consensus at the time, the “captains of industry” were all for it.
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,842353,00.html
#2 The largest stimulus program since WW II was enacted in 2009 (which, inconveniently for Krugman is after 2008) and is widely perceived to be a policy failure. You can argue over the nature of the failure (not big enough vs wrong prescription) but not the idea that stimulus hasn’t been tried. Regardless of any temporary drop in unemployment due to demand shifting, it did not create a self sustaining recovery that would produce the unemployment targets that were predicted.
Krugman can beat the demand drum as long as he wants, but there are even economists on the left (Stiglitz, Reich) who argue that structural issues, usually involving inequality, will preclude a significant drop in unemployment even with more spending.
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“would be issued by your wife?”
she’s a rubber stamp for those things.
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What is the take away from this NYT Magazine article about women opting back in?
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“novahockey, on August 9, 2013 at 11:25 am said:
“would be issued by your wife?”
she’s a rubber stamp for those things.”
You nicknamed her FISA?
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troll … did you see Ace’s comments on that?
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Yes, though I disagree some with Monty. At heart, there is some serious elitism / audience pandering with the article that I think drives the narrative.
What’d you take away from it?
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Troll,
That as Jack Welsh put it there’s no such thing as work/life balance. There are work/life choices, you make them and they have consequences.
Megan McArdle on this:
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-08-08/women-who-opt-out-face-harsh-choices.html
PL Open Thread last night where I get into it with Shrink, et al at 9:15 EST in Shrink’s thread.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2013/08/08/happy-hour-roundup-164/
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I scanned the NYT one, so ….
I think your elitisim comment is on. staying home is luxury for most. although I agree that the “having it all” is a myth.
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“What I heard instead were some regrets for what, in an ideal world, might have been — more time with their children combined with some sort of intellectually stimulating, respectably paying, advancement-permitting part-time work — but none for the high-powered professional lives that these women had led.””
yeah, and I want to win the stanley cup and be the superbowl MVP in the same year. every year.
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As someone who gave up her career twice because of raising children, I think you can balance things but you can’t have everything. I couldn’t ever figure out how to work the hours required to have a career in my field and raise five kids. I never blamed anyone for it, it was our decision as a family. Of course the number five had something to do with that. My husband worked 10 to 12 hour days, we couldn’t both do that and feel we’d given the kids a good shot. We didn’t have any help either unless we paid for it.
Our daughter is trying to figure out how to balance all of this right now and whether she wants to or not. The oldest decided not to have children.
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” but you can’t have everything”
lms — this might be too personal, so if so, pls disregard.
but i’ve found that my wife single friend have a hard time accepting that marriage is what’s best for the unit. she got some push back for declining an offer in another city, but it wasn’t really hard for her, b/c there were other considerations. she told them it would have been great for her, but bad for us. her single friends just had a hard time getting that. but what i read in your comment is exactly what we’ve done.
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Nova, I think it gets very complicated but it’s something that you can’t legislate or design a one size fits all solution. Like most things in a family unit, it’s best decided by the family. I don’t think it means we don’t look back with some regrets though. Life in general is a trade off between hopes, desires, dreams and reality.
I believe women still have issues in the work force, especially in some industries, but I don’t think it’s fair to expect to walk back into the same job after being gone for a number of years. That sounded like what the discussion at the PL was about to me.
Our daughter will probably turn down a big job in Houston because of her relationship, and they’re not even married yet. I ended up working part time jobs outside of my field and volunteering in my field. These are all decisions that families make, IMO.
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What I got out of the article, in addition to the pander was the conclusion that this country has unrealistic ideas about housework. Also, marriage provides very little value to its participants. I agree with both conclusions.
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I also think women bear the larger burden of child rearing and taking care of the home. Just the way it is for the most part. I think we know that going in too. If we’re lucky we find a partner who appreciates what we do and helps out or even occasionally one who wants to reverse the roles, at least part time.
My husband used to come home from work when we had a newborn, a two year old and a 10 year old and complain about work and then I’d complain about the kids and pretty soon we were arguing about who had the shittiest life. Hahaha, it didn’t take us long to figure out that argument was a recipe for disaster. If you love each other and the kids, you figure it out.
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lms:
I also think women bear the larger burden of child rearing…
True, but don’t you think women have a greater natural, physiological urge to rear children?
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McWing, I think marriage is a great institution, but it’s not for everyone.
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lms:
McWing, I think marriage is a great institution, but it’s not for everyone.
The people that marriage is truly good for is children. Marriage is useful as a child-rearing tool, and, as part of that, insurance protection for the people (mostly women) who dedicate themselves to the task of rearing their children. In a less libertine sexual time the benefit it provided men was sexual gratification. But in this day and age of working mothers and easily obtainable, consequence-free sex, its benefits are now largely limited to the children that grow up within it.
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Scott,
Yes, I do. Nothing really matches the maternal instinct. I think people who like to argue otherwise have never been a mother………….lol
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Scott
consequence-free sex
There are consequences and then there are consequences. What makes a marriage is what’s left after the children leave.
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lms:
I tend to think that if you stick together after the kids are gone, you don’t really need a marriage. At that point the relationship doesn’t, and shouldn’t, depend on some legal (or even spiritual) obligation.
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Many even spoke of it as a unique post-feminist adventure — “Real women’s empowerment is being able to do what you want to when you want to,” Amy Cunningham Atkinson, a Yale graduate and former “60 Minutes” producer (and 2004 Lesley Stahl interviewee), told me. But now they were learning that some things were beyond even their prodigious powers of control.
How can any human, beyond the age of twelve, ever believe this? Is she stupid?
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Scott, I suppose I’m both old fashioned and a romantic then. You’d think by now marriage wouldn’t still be so popular, although I don’t know the statistics. I’ve been enjoying watching all our children’s friends pair off and marry. Most of them are professionals, some do and some don’t want children, they’ve waited until they’re close to or over 30, and yet they’ve still decided to take the plunge. I wonder why?
My husband and I talk about how lucky we are all the time. When I met him I was a single mother and while I hadn’t sworn off men, I’d definitely sworn off marriage and yet here I am 35 years later…………..lol
I don’t think you can break marriage down to just raising children and sex…….call me crazy. I do believe though that some people, of both sexes, aren’t suited to the marriage commitment, but then I also believe lots of people aren’t suited to be parents either and I even wish they hadn’t bothered.
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I don’t think that marriage is about either having sex or having kids. That wasn’t why we got married.
It’s about making a public commitment to another person that you will stand by them no matter what. Sometimes something happens (in my case, Brian becoming an alcoholic) that you have no control over and your commitment has to become to yourself rather than your partner, but at its core marriage is a commitment to that other person.
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