ATiM: Dead or Alive?

ATiM has been extremely quiet for some time now. Brent keeps up his morning post, and both jnc and McWing continue to post daily links, but apart from that there doesn’t seem to be a whole lot of commentary. A lot of people seem to have checked out for good. At the moment ATiM is, at best, on life support, if not dead altogether. Can it be revived? Should it be? What needs to be done in order to revive it, or should it be put out of its misery altogether?

Anyone out there lurking who would care to offer up an opinion? Consider it an exit interview…brutal honesty is welcome.

21 Responses

  1. In my opinion, unless people come back and put up posts and comment frequently again, including some of our memorably contentious debates, ATiM should be put out of it’s misery.

    If I’m to be brutally honest, I think we failed, and I take some of the responsibility for that……………………..but not all of it………………..haha


  2. My own availability for this comes and goes based on external time constraints.

    I did a couple of posts two weeks ago and argued with Scott about abortion but don’t have time right now.

    I have wanted to link everything at Volokh about the reporter warrants and haven’t had time so I suggest everyone go read Volokh – both Eugene and Orrin Kerr – on the subject.

    Having excused myself, I agree that we have lost participation from lots of good people. Without Brent, this probably would die.

    Still, a discussion here beats any of the typical blogs. So while I am not optimistic, absent Kevin appearing at least three times a week, I hope it hangs on.

    While we could invite more folks, unless they had the energy and talent KW and Lulu had at the beginning it would not change the downward spiral.

    Note: I have been updating the quotation from time to time and weekly cataloging all the posts.


  3. I’d be willing to put some time into it again and become an Admin and create posts but only if there’s truly some interest and commitment. I’m not even sure it’s what anyone really wants at this point. If there’s only 3 or 4 of us around I don’t really think it’s worth the effort.

    BTW, the PL isn’t doing it for me either. But I do miss having something to do when I’m supposed to be working.

    And of course Brent deserves a lot of credit for keeping the lights on and Mark for taking care of some of the details.

    Is it time for us to exit stage left?


  4. I don’t mind continuing to post here.. I am just posting my morning email I send out to our loan officers and other people who care about the real estate market. ATiM or no, I will keep doing the same email, so it is no additional work for me.

    But I can understand if people are getting bored with my real estate focused posts.


    • Brent:

      For what it is worth, I am not bored at all with it.


    • Not bored, here, Brent.

      I tried to explain that no American budget within conception was austere to a silent audience at PL. I see they met your attempt with open derision. If I had been there in time I would have supported you at the time.

      We may be having an actual bubble in Austin RE now.

      Now I am out of time again.


  5. I like it a lot. I don’t feel a need to force a decision on this provided it’s not costing someone a lot of time or money.


    • jnc:

      I don’t feel a need to force a decision on this provided it’s not costing someone a lot of time or money.

      I don’t mean to force an ultimate decision on behalf of everyone. But personally I would like to get some sense of what this place will be going forward. When ATiM was created, I departed PL for good and dedicated all of my “opinion time” to this space, and have done so ever since. Given the limited number of participants, I thought it was important, in order to keep it moving and active, not to split my time. I also felt, perhaps irrationally, a certain amount of loyalty, and to spend my time elsewhere seemed a bit like cheating on ATiM. If the current atmosphere is just a lull due to current time constraints (ie Mark) that’s fine. But if, as I sense, there has been a widespread sea change in attitude towards participation here, then I will feel less guilty (albeit no less sad) about seeking a different outlet for my need for political interaction and expression.


  6. Thanks for the morning posts Brent.


  7. From someone who hasn’t posted in a while — as long as you all are getting something out of your interactions, then it’s probably premature to kill the blog. The discussions here are certainly better than places like Plum Line.

    Brent, I still read your MRs regularly at The Daily Tearsheet.


    • Mike:

      From someone who hasn’t posted in a while…

      Is that likely to be a continuing circumstance?


      • Scott:

        Is that likely to be a continuing circumstance?

        For the foreseeable future, yes. Life gets in the way of blogging sometimes.


  8. Well, I am glad people like my posts.. Happy to continue doing what I do.. I do like the occasional Bites and Pieces as well.


  9. I do like the occasional Bites and Pieces as well.

    There’s definitely a joke in there somewhere.


  10. Brent, I enjoy your morning reports, and I’ve learned more about the financial world than I thought I wanted to by reading them. . . and found out that markets and such aren’t as boring as I thought they were! I just don’t have a lot to contribute to those discussions.

    I also enjoy the legal discussions. . . but I don’t have a lot to contribute to those, either, so I just lurk.


  11. I came to ATiM for the moderates.

    I was misinformed.


  12. I was misinformed

    Yeah, that didn’t work out too well did it. I’m giving it another try though. Funny, I’m working on a post that I’ll put up later that asks “What is a moderate”?

    Since Kevin named the site, and is the ultimate moderate, I think we can blame it all on him.


    • lms:

      Yeah, that didn’t work out too well did it.

      I actually think it worked out fairly well. We were promised moderation, not moderates. (At least I was never promised only moderates.) And especially relative to other places, I think ATiM compares pretty favorably on that front.


  13. That’s true Scott. We’ve pretty much relied on self-moderation though and I think there might be varying opinions on whether that has actually worked or not.

    I do agree that when we get on a roll we’re better than the average bear.

    Considering our small number of participants we do still have a pretty wide range of political preferences, a good thing in my opinion.


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