Georgia Republican Compares Women to Cows and Pigs

This fellow wants to make it illegal to perform a medical procedure to remove a dead fetus from a woman if it’s past 20 weeks.

For pity’s sake. Then he contrasts forcing a woman to wait until she has a miscarriage to remove the dead fetus to cows and pigs delivering still born babies on the farm. Then:

Suggesting that if a cow or pig can give birth to a dead baby, then a woman should too was not enough for Rep. England though. He then delivered an anecdote to the chamber in which a young man who was apparently opposed to legislation outlawing chicken fighting said he would give up all of his chickens if the legislature simply took away women’s right to an abortion.

Yowza. My fellow southerners, endeavoring to prove all the stereotypes true, or perhaps understated.

 

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  1. You cannot outflank crazy on the right. He does seem to be implying that women should be forced to carry stillborns to term. We would save a lot of money firing all the doctors and converting to veterinarians in the delivery room.

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    • YJ:

      The market would dictate that veterinarians would become big earners again, as there are not enough of them to replace MDs. However, there does seem to be a surplus of DVMs in the current market. There are surely uses of the medical talents of surplus vets for human beings that might be efficiently allocated in a free market, absent AMA restrictions. Waste not, want not!

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  2. The AMA is being effectively end run by osteopathic doctors who have re-aligned their curriculum to be nearly identical to traditional medicine. Or we could just go the Rand Paul route and establish parallel accrediting groups and let anybody in.

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  3. You cannot outflank crazy on the right.

    Well, perhaps it is more difficult in contemporary America, although, historically, there has been some impressive craziness on both the left and the right.

    I recall listening to a story on NPR long ago where a woman was advocating for mandatory estrogen-based hormone therapy for all men, to blunt their testosterone-fueled violence and generally offensive maleness. I’d rank that as fairly crazy, and I’d date it at about 12 years ago—recent enough to be part of contemporary America. But this was one advocate exercising her personal misandry for public consumption on NPR, not an elected representative.

    In a liberalish discussion group I participated in at the time, I brought that anecdote up, and was accused of making it up. At least those liberals acknowledged the wackiness of the notion, and in retrospect I guess it’s good that they did not want to own that particular far-lefty any more than I would want to own this particular far-righty.

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  4. Or we could just go the Rand Paul route and establish parallel accrediting groups and let anybody in.

    Haven’t we sort of done this with homeopathy (and homeopathic medicines, for that matter?)

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  5. Hmm. My first guess, before clicking the link, is that it is something that Paul Broun would have said. Wrong. Guess there is plenty of crazy to go around in GA.

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  6. Not wanting to start anything before I get to actually listen to the man (can’t do that at work), but in reading the bill (HB 954), I don’t see where it bans removing stillbirths. It seems to be directed to determining when life begins via fetal pain (as in when the fetus can feel pain). Now this is a topic worthy of discussion…but not when the conversation starts from the line – women are like cows and pigs.

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  7. This is precisely the sort of elected official who gives Republicans, and by tarring with the same brush, conservatives, a bad name.

    That’s all for my drive-by. . . off to dinner and then back to teaching! Have a fun evening, all!

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  8. yello:

    You cannot outflank crazy on the right.

    Really, yello, you need to familiarize yourself with, say, Sheila Jackson Lee to take but one example.

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  9. That is the sort of burden I am up against here. The topic is crazy Republicans. Nowhere have I denied the existence of crazy Democrats. I would have used Dennis Kucinich as an example, but there are plenty to go around.

    If a SNL skit or a Bill Maher piece had written this guy’s words verbatim they would be excoriated for trafficking in unfair stereotypes. Speaking of Bill Maher, as self-rebuttal to her piece on Mississippians, Alexandra Pelosi (yes, that Pelosi) went just outside of her NYC apartment and interviewed some random food stamp applicants. They said things just as stereotypically offensive as the Mississippians.

    My point is that anytime you think you have reached the edge of satire, there is a leading conservative somewhere willing to take you seriously. I once tried to sockpuppet as a wingnut with a spoonerism problem but nobody got the joke since they kept mistaking me for a genuine conservative troll. I’ll never try that again. Way too much work and too many people do it better.

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  10. in reading the bill (HB 954), I don’t see where it bans removing stillbirths.

    I tried to read the bill as well and couldn’t really find that either. There is a ‘health of the mother’ exemption with some pretty tight restrictions but it sounds like a stretch to say it requires carrying a stillborn to term. There may be some left-wing hysteria rousing at work here. Personally, as a pro-choice person, I find it onerous enough without exaggeration.

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  11. Same here, Dave! and yellojkt. However, I did not go further and locate the GA definition of “illegal abortion.” I am wondering if there is concern about unintended consequences precisely because there is no express exemption, similar to the concerns about OK’s personhood legislation preventing in vitro, etc. Nonetheless, I do find the comparison of human females to farm animals offputting, to say the least.

    BTW, Dave!, neither did I read the bill as attempting to determine when life begins, but rather as using existence of fetal pain to rationalize (not meant in a pejorative sense) making abortion illegal at 20 weeks and after except under certain limited circumstances.

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  12. yello:

    The topic is crazy Republicans.

    Actually the topic was a single crazy representative. You generalized it to “the right”. Perhaps what you are “up against here” is a function of what you attempt to do here.

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  13. Actually the topic was a single crazy representative.

    And Mike managed to name a second one. There may be a few more in the Georgia legislature. We’ll have to keep an eye out.

    …a function of what you attempt to do here.

    Do tell. I wonder what that is myself sometimes.

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