Thursday Morning Opening Thread

The Tea Party Strikes Again?
Hold onto your hats, it’s about to get bumpy out there again:
The U.S. House, in a surprise setback to Republican leaders, defeated a spending bill providing $3.65 billion in aid to victims of recent natural disasters and needed to prevent a government shutdown.

Republicans unhappy with the measure’s overall cost joined Democrats opposed to a proposed cut in an auto industry-loan program to derail the measure yesterday, 230-195. Opposing the legislation were 48 Republicans and 182 Democrats; backing it were 189 Republicans and six Democrats.

The defeat raises the prospect of a government shutdown because the bill would fund the government until Nov. 18. The current fiscal year ends Sept. 30, and Congress is in recess next week.
Roll call is here.

”Utah’s Sarah Palin”
I had not heard of this woman, and I have to say that I don’t think she’s got a snowball’s chance as the congressional district is configured right now, but she is mounting a run against my Blue Dog. Jim Matheson is really going to be in trouble if the redistricting commission goes with the “doughnut hole” approach (one CD centered on Salt Lake City on the Wasatch front and the other three dividing up the rest of the state). He isn’t liberal enough to carry the new urban district—the big reason why his re-election was so close last time was because liberals like me voted for a third party candidate rather than him—and Tea Party sentiment is running high in Utah and a candidate like Ms Eagar could carry the rural part of his existing district. Will she have the ‘Cuda’s ability to fire up the masses?

Greek Salad
From the BBC, Reuters, and Food TV. Although I, personally, would leave the green peppers out of the last one.

Who’s got a good joke to start the day?
Submitted for your consideration by Michigoose

29 Responses

  1. As an aside, I have to thank Scott and Kevin for all the schooling they've been giving us on formatting in HTML. I've been scrolling back through the threads and damn we're starting to look darn professional with our live links dropped into the middle of sentences and such!Thanks, guys!

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  2. Well, all that discussion of moving made me realize one way that internet friends are better than "real life" ones — they can't ask you to help them move!I have to look at the FAQ; I hope you were able to collect the various HTML tips there. Since I don't seem to have an HTML tab, I guess I will have to do some experimenting with work arounds. Or, is my edit window the HTML window, since I can use the button to insert a link (although I only see a sliver of the button)?

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  3. Yesterday, I suggested we could edit the morning and evening threads after publication to add short items when we want to throw another log on the discussion fire. I find, however, that my browser crashes any time I try to do that, so that appears to be another possible IE7 disability? Perhaps another note for the FAQ if others confirm it.In any event, I was going to add a link to this, since I am someone who critiqued more than one Glenn Kessler fact check over at PL and found it interesting.

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  4. Not good. I have apparently lost my ability to edit draft posts as well. I suspect that means I can't start new ones either. IE7 crashes each time I click edit. : ( I will do some research but am interested whether this is happening to others.

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  5. qb, I'm using Firefox and not experiencing the tech problems you mention.All, I've scrubbed the comments left from deleted posts Invitees and Beach Music. (If you see one on the comments tab I missed, please delete.) Also removed content from a number of posts under Sweet Dreams that discussed invitees or specific individuals elsewhere.Hope everyone has a good day.

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  6. Thanks, Okie.Cleared cache, that doesn't help. Anyone else experiencing this, pipe up.

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  7. I rarely use IE7, QB. Sorry. Any other browser would probably work better, but as this is a Google product, a webkit based browser like Safari or Chrome would probably work best. Alas, this stuff is impossible to test ahead of time. We could always start another blog over on WordPress, see how that works. 😉 It's not any less confusing, but it might work correctly with IE7.

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  8. I will try and take a look at in in IE7 today. Seems crazy that it wouldn't work. Perhaps Google has a prohibition of testing Explorer on their products. 😉 . . . they aren't fans of Bing, as I understand it.

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  9. Good morning, all.qb, I don't even have the HTML in the Post a Comment, although I see it in the New Post area, so I unfortunately can't help you.When I had my issue, the fix was to uncheck the box to keep me signed in, and closing/opening Blogger. I use IE8 on Windows 7.

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  10. Sorry qb, I can't help you either. I think ABC is having some of the same problems. Are you sure you can't have another browser in addition to IE7 that you use on your work laptop? You don't have to only have one necessarily? Perhaps it's time for a new laptop? Just throwing ideas out, but I really don't know what I'm talking about.Also, FYI, BGinChi doesn't have tao's email so right now you're it. BG could wander in any time in the next few weeks, he's super busy at work right now.

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  11. I think tao saw my address again and hopefully will email me. I'm over there now, but it has my computer slowed down.The posting problem just started today or yesterday, so who knows. My IS people have this computer wrapped in barbed wire, but I'm going to start busting their chops. It needs replaced anyway. But all efforts to install another browser or update are blocked for now.

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  12. I reverted back to the "old interface," and this seems to allow editing posts. It also lets me see the window, html and compose tabs, and buttons properly, which I could never do. Looks clunkier, but perhaps it will work better for those of us stuck for now in IE7.Might be worth putting in the FAQ as a fix alternative for people having editing/posting trouble.

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  13. Good idea qb, I don't think I ever switched to the new interface. Well, I'm not sure as I have no idea what you're talking about.Good luck with the move michi. We'll see ya at the other end.

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  14. I'm shocked that Utah is considering a Salt Lake City district. It's always had Speaking of Sarah Palin before there was Sarah Palin, Enid Greene (then Enid Greene Waldholz then Enid Green again) ran a few times for a Utah seat. She lost the first time, got married and ran a second time using hubby's wealth to fund her campaign. Except that it wasn't hubby's wealth, but rather a loan he had taken out from her parents. Just goes to show the silliness of the campaign laws. John Kerry had to take out a big loan on his mansion to fund his campaign, because he couldn't use any of his wife's enormous fortune. I'm not sure why the rules were different for Greene and Kerry. I see a blog post coming on campaign finance.BB

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  15. lms,You are probably in the new interface if you just started using Blogger. When I got the invite and joined, it put me in the the "new interface" but gave the option to use the old one.You should have something on your dashboard that says switch to or try new [or old] interface. Mine was always at the top of the page. Now that I'm in the old one, I have "Try the updated Blogger interface" at the top.

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  16. Ack. See what happens when the first line scrolls down. I thought that SLC had always been divided up. Turns out that's not the case as there was a Salt Lake district back in the mid-90s when I lived there. Incidentally, that district was won by Republicans Enid Waldholz and then Merrill Cook, so I don't think that Matheson would have trouble holding it.

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  17. FB — I saw your intro post from a few days ago. I always wonder if your handle was in reference to the neighborhood. I used to live across the street in Park Fairfax.

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  18. I'm not very familiar with Utah politics but we're going through redistricting battles out here in CA also. In my area the one who may be most affected is Darryl Issa and another Republican down in San Diego who may be losing some of his area to him and unless something's changed may not be able to keep his seat. I think for awhile he was thinking of running against Issa, good luck with that.

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  19. "I think for awhile he was thinking of running against Issa, good luck with that."start smaller. a friend won a city council in seat in Maryland last year. we had basically no budget, but he knocked on every door in the district.

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  20. I added two questions/answers to the FAQ on these posting issues.Someone might want to proof and qc them when you have a chance.Reverting to the old interface might help other people like Taroya, as it has me.

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  21. Hi NoVA, I watched that video last night, it's been big in the news out here. Did you see that the cops both got charged, one with second degree the other with manslaughter? We happened to be stuck in traffic a few weeks ago and turned on the radio for a traffic report and heard an interview with the young man's dad, really sad story.

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  22. lms–thanks!qb–thanks for putting it over on the FAQ comments tab. If somebody could give it a look-see on IE7 and see if (1) they can identify the problem as qb is seeing it and the (2) fix it, please also add that to a FAQ comment tab I'll get into those when I get back and get it into the permanent post.Fairlington–you have no idea how much Matheson has pissed off the left here! He'll never win an urban seat. He's really a rural moderate Republican guy at heart, anyway, and has just been trading on his name and his Dad's and brother's reputations. Meh.More later. Good morning, all!

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  23. lms — I did. Reason was live blogging the DA's press conference. Setting aside the actual crime, it found it fascinating how viral video and a horrific hospital-room photo really drove the case. You can look that that story through multiple lens — police abuse, social media, mental health, etc. it's sad that it really took the father's pushing this on his own for it to get any legs.

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  24. same thing here outside of DC in College Part, MDhttp://www.washingtonpost.com/local/xxxx/2011/09/20/gIQAMYbviK_story.htmlindicted b/c they beat that kid. video denied them the opportunity to close ranks and lie.

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  25. Michi,I already put it on the FAQ itself. But plese check it out.Reverting to the old interface seems to have cured a lot of problems for me.

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  26. NoVA, and what's up with all the tasering? You probably don't read digby over at Hullabaloo but she follows the taser deaths nationally and it seem like every week there's another one. I'll talk to ya later, need to get busy here.

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  27. got to get to work too, but the "less-than-lethal" stuff is a big issue. not just tasers. a lady in Pittsburgh is suing b/c the police used some sort of noise machine to disperse the crowd at the G20 — damaged her hearing.

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  28. I'm going to drop this in here, and hopefully some of the folks see it.There should be some type of About Us and/or FAQ questions explaining the nature of the blog, who we are, how we got here, etc. And also perhaps addressing the Blog name (do most people know what it means?) and is this just a place for moderates?

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  29. @NoVa – You got the handle right. Technically, I live in a part of Alexandria that stole the Fairlington name–Fairlington Towne. Gotta love that twee e at the end. I hope to be a part of something that isn't for moderates, but rather moderate in tone. I'm a C-SPAN junkie. They broadcast a lot of debates in which starkly opposing views are presented, but there is respect between individuals. So, rather than the pot shots that characterize the comments section, I hope for substantive engagement. BB

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