We drove through the world’s largest windfarm after we left Sweetwater. The 2.833 year old twins were fascinated.
Austin’s two lowest cost sources of energy are natural gas and wind, followed by coal. The City is trying to replace all its coal based use. Wind produces about 17% of Austin’s energy, I think. Austin also has built a large solar facility but it can supply only about 1% of capacity and costs four times as much as gas or wind.
The City’s insistence on solar projects is controversial because they will produce energy over a twenty year period projected to drop in cost comparison from four times wind to twice wind, but never be as cheap as wind. The City justifies solar projects on a few grounds – diversity of clean sources, a boost to tech companies in and coming to Austin, and the fact that the sunniest days are the least windy. Further, Austin does not have local wind generation capacity and buys from wind farms either in the west or on the Gulf. Austin does have enough sunshine, and the local City owned sun powered 30MW generation plant opens in a few weeks.
Austin owns land in west TX that I thought was going to get dotted with wind generators. I now read in this morning’s paper that the city utility wants to build 3 huge solar arrays that will potentially provide 10% of capacity. I assume that would be instead of wind generators.
The city utility subsidizes rooftop solar panels but is leery of them in the long term.
I am not an opponent of experimenting with solar on a small scale, albeit large enough to sustain slow development, until it becomes cheap. The local solar plant made sense to me in that regard. But wind is so cheap that for coal replacement nothing else makes current $$$ and sense [except NG]. Like Boone Pickens, I think NG is the mobile fuel of choice in the near future, so I would go for more wind in the stationary source market.
What are the down sides of wind farms? The prop blades are tough on birds that do not adapt by flying higher. The ground vibrates. The props make some noise. The high plains from Sweetwater, TX to N.Dak. are wind central but the transmission lines are not in place and must generally be routed hundreds of miles to population centers. Wind speeds are high enough over the Great Lakes and the coastal waters for generators, and can be placed close to coastal or lakeside population centers.
A political note: our Land Commissioner is the daddy of windpower in America. A staunch conservative R, I vote for him every time. He saw that it would be cheap, a boon for underutilized mesas in TX, and that it could help sustain the economy many years ago, and subsidized its development until TX now has far and away the most wind generated power in America. I think we will have enough to support one third of the homes in TX within two years.
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I do work in and near Austin and their power market is aggressive to say the least. I worry it will ultimately make the region uncompetitive.
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YJ – let's have lunch sometime.
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"The city utility subsidizes rooftop solar panels but is leery of them in the long term."So there are now a number of companies that make your house (and I would assume business) solar via rooftop panels, etc. They cover the upfront cost/installation and you continue to pay a monthly electric fee, just to the solar company (they say it is less than your current electric bill). It seems that I have seen more an more of these companies using this business model, which to me seems to indicate that it is feasible. If they can stay in business, at some breakeven point they will be making pure profit from customers and as the cost of solar decreases, that day will come sooner. The company is motivated to drive down the cost of solar.On wind, right now wind turbines are a cool novelty. But I could see how they could become an eyesore as more and more spring up and they lose their hip appeal. My kids still like counting the number of turbines going on our trip to Pittsburgh – there are about a half dozen of them along the PA turnpike. They are apparently hard on bats too.
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Wind turbines are apparently very expensive too, at least when you put them in Lake Erie. I think I remember that the pilot project near Cleveland was going to cost something like $100M. I also think I remember that NY was giving up on wind turbines in Lake Erie.Probably should do a Google search, but I'm too lazy.
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As mark intimidated, the wind does not always blow when you need the power. One recent proposal up here was to pump water into old mine pits when the wind blows & run hydro turbines for power when the wind is not blowing.
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This comes back to a discussion Scott and I were having. I don't think solar is there yet. However, I think carbon will inevitably increase in cost and we'll get to the threshold where solar is commercially viable. It would be nice in the meantime if we didn't have to buy all of it from the PRC.BB
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